Working Groups & other discussion forums
Day
1
Session
1: Perceptions of ILAC
Q1.
What practical actions can we take collectively
and individually after the workshop to address
the paradox of strong demand for Impact
Assessment but limited evidence of direct
influence on decisions?
*Involve
donors in the IA process in critical stages
of the decision-making process (taking them
on board)
*Impact Assessments need to cover the complexity
of farmers' decision-making and agricultural
innovation processes in order to deliver
the outcomes that correspond with donors'
demand
*Provide short briefs (1 page) that donors/decision-makers
can read given their limited time for absorbing
information (note of caution: potential
trade-off between providing condensed information
and doing justice to complexity)
*Identify the key people that need to be
informed and focus your 'information package'
to them Þ strategic way of informing
people (right timing, right targeting)
*Make decision-makers prepared for failures
as a normal part of human actions; build
confidence, ownership and trust with decision-makers
(long-term process)
*Look into wider issues of credibility in
our efforts to create impact (e.g. funding
for projects/programs vs. funding for administration)
*Build alliances with other people in the
organization that are committed to institutional
change
*Be more realistic about the impact that
research can have within the lifetime of
a project; raised awareness might lead to
project impact long after the project has
been phased out (which raises the questions:
when to measure impact? and are we looking
too much into immediate impact)
*Raise awareness of donors about impact
pathways (these might not always be linear)
*{Be strategic - joining an existing 'wave,'
not necessarily in at start (if appropriate)}
Q2.
How to blend formal and informal methods
and different world-views with reference
to large-scale impact assessment? (noting
that this integration is easier at village
scale with more focused networks)
Click
here to see the graphic
· {A definition was provided - that
of Oxfam}
· Importance of values depends on
level of participation
· Local context-specific choice of
methodologies
· CGIAR is good at involving partners
· CGIAR bad in analyzing social processes
· Honesty: explain failures and learn
[from them]
Session 2: Collaborative impact assessment
Q3.
How do you bring about institutional changes
that give rise to more poverty reduction,
environmental sustainability and social
inclusion?
Overview:
· To be effective, need to understand
and act on processes, political context
and institutions
· Principles of political and cultural
action are embedded in particular activities
and their context. Example of Grameen Bank,
where new employees are immediately sent
to spend 6 months in the field and to be
as critical as possible about what they
observe. Many drop out, but those who stay
really understand what is going on.
Action:
Donors: key to change! But fickle, attracted
to success
Farmer field school (FFS) story:
· became proven success; all donors
want to give to them, but the desire to
fund FFSs is greater than the number of
FFSs that are truly capable of implementing
the program. As FFSs emerged that were not
successful, there was a general backlash
against FFSs
· In Nepal, existing network of FFSs
wanted to defend their quality. Because
there was enough power in farmer trainers
and other supporters, there were representations
to Ministry, which succeeded in blocking
unqualified FFSs.
Centers:
· Different cultures probably means
different approaches; an example is that
the merging of CIAT and TSBF has been difficult
because of very different cultures or styles
· Another example is that ICRAF is
the only Center with the mandate of 'research
for development'; all others steer away
from associations with development per se
· Use self-assessment and learning
from failures
· Learning from other institutions
· One Center has new DG whose philosophy
is to 'let people run free and then bring
back together'
· Decentralization common to many
Centers and such Centers are more likely
to have scientists aware of and responsible
to local needs. This is often problematic
vis-à-vis demands from the Centers
for a unified position or corporate approach,
or at least not including "extras."
Good
practice:
· Using self-assessment as part of
the culture where impact and failures are
part of the learning
· Need positive models to give us
insights on how to change institutions.
Leadership:
"champion"
· cannot be trained, anointed
· Finding allies
· Dealing with power structure
· May be messy; 'blood on the ground'
· Requires determination, sustained
effort.
Q4. How do we do IA and M&E that
meet collaborative needs and include both
science and development objectives?
Summary:
Increase in number of different types of
partners or stakeholders à multiple
IA information needs à IA becomes
more complex and there is a need to apply
different methods à challenge be
inclusive and ensure that IA is manageable.
Elements that can help:
· Involve multiple partners in the
definition of the key questions of the IA
and in drawing conclusions from the findings
· Separate tasks for IA and tasks
for capacity-building.
Should
we use the term collaborative here? Should
we rather use the term partnerships? 'Collaborative'
does not necessarily reflect the degree
of commitment, dedication, responsibility
sharing, resource-sharing as compared to
'partnerships.' On the other hand, collaboration
may be short term or long term, it can be
a partnership but does not have to be.
The
challenge in the question to be addressed,
it was agreed, is really dealing with different/multiple
needs for IA information. A graphic illustration
was produced:
Click
here to see the graphic
To
get an idea of the different types of partners/stakeholders
and their different IA information needs,
the group decided to list different partners/stakeholders
and their IA information needs. There was
talk about also listing the consequences
of not meeting these needs.
Three groups of partners/stakeholders were
identified related to a local-global continuum:
· Micro, e.g. community-level partners
· Meso, e.g. regional- or national-level
partners
· Macro, e.g. international-level
partners.
The
listing of needs and consequences was not
completed, as the discussion moved on to
the issue of accountability:
Demands/needs for IA information
| Immediate
(demands) |
Those
who control research funding and jobs |
| Secondary
(needs) |
Those
who need the information for their own
research or development activities |
| Tertiary
(needs) |
Those
who benefits from research and development
activities |
However,
there was agreement that this is not the
preferred way to think about accountability
structure - How should the accountability
structure for IA look and be like?
The
group identified possible elements and discussed
at length, but did not reach conclusion
or agreement.
Elements
that could be considered to influence accountability
structure:
· MDGs ?
· Social and economic inclusion ?
· Equity ?
· Human rights ?
The
group observed that these are all goals
in themselves - but whose goals?
Day 2
Session
3: Methods and constraints for ILAC
Q5.
Use of data (from PM&E processes)
for learning purposes and project re-adjustment
for enhancing impact and who needs to participate
in these processes? How do we learn from
people who have done this already?
·
Having a community-level process that feeds
into an institutional/R&D process
· In utilization-focused evaluation
that involves decision-makers in reflecting
on data
· Having a systematic process for
tracking indicators
· 'Stopping' to reflect and learn
- {balance creating space for reflection
with promotion of good practice, avoiding
micro-management (e.g. reflection time in
CCER)}
· Ensuring formal PM&E processes
run alongside informal processes
· Ensuring flexibility in the process
"leaving room for serendipity"
· à donors [
]
· {IPGRI's management team has been
transformed in respect of allowing time
for reflection, providing empirical evidence
that a Center can learn and change - other
Centers could learn from this experience,
which needs documenting}
· {knowledge sharing in ICT-KM is
looking at Center annual meetings, trying
to transform them into learning fairs for
interaction and reflection (CIFOR, IWMI
cases)}.
Q6. How do we scale out PR processes
while at the same time maintaining quality,
rigor and relevance of these processes?
How do we learn from people who have already
done this?
·
There are experiences of scaling out already
happening: need to extract lessons, promote
cross-case learning
· Process and principles can be replicated
how many times?
· Capacity-building should be a priority:
identify key (and interested) components
of the innovation system; practical learning,
mentoring, etc.
· Institutional commitment for learning
and change, and political support needed
engaging from the beginning
· Replication has risks: (a) technologies
that may not fit; (b) tools without principles
· For replication of technologies
generated through PR, a differentiation
should be made between input-based and knowledge-intensive
approaches that are tied to process
· Quality control? Institutional
commitment final test in the real
world: accountability
· {Scaling out requires compromise
for the masses}
· {Differentiate scaling-out processes
from project-based processes - need policy
involvement}
· {Need to engage at political level}
Session 4: Empowerment
Q7.
What experiences have participants had in
trying to assess empowerment processes?
What differences have the concept of farmer
empowerment made to how research and development
organisations operate?
Outputs:
· There appears to be more than one
discourse on empowerment:
-The 'new' discourse, focussed on projects
and heavily influenced by the World Bank.
This discourse includes a big concern with
measurement, for the purposes of external
assessment. In addition to World Bank efforts,
other interesting work in this area has
been done by DANIDA, CARE, INTRAC
-The 'old' discourse, focussed on social
movements and influenced by Friere. The
achievements are self-justifying and therefore
no need for external assessment. Many examples
from Latin America, including Campesino
and Campesino
· The group discussion repeatedly
came back to the experience of IPM Farmer
Field Schools, which seems to bridge the
old and new discourses (perhaps IPM is more
'new,' and FFS is more 'old'). This may
explain why measurement of FFS impact has
been controversial, and why success has
sometimes been followed by examples of 'the
empire strikes back'
· The 'new' discourse is problematic
for a number of reasons:
-is empowerment zero-sum or relative?
- is empowerment transformational or reversible?
-who decides what is 'good' empowerment
and what is troublemaking?
-can there be too much empowerment of farmers,
with negative consequences for other sections
of society?
-should empowerment be seen as a precondition
or a consequence for technological development?
· Old or new, the group agreed that
greater awareness of power would greatly
help the work of agricultural scientists
and extensionists. We all need to understand
relationships and dynamics in the communities/societies
where we work, and we need to appreciate
our own power. There are good examples of
'transformational' learning among development
professionals (India, Indonesia, South Africa)
that help to achieve this better understanding
of roles and relationships. The CG Centers
need more of this.
Session 5: Gender
Q8.
How have some people in research context
been able to create gender conducive environment?
Good
practices to learn from:
· Commitment/support from leadership
(e.g. IWMI)
· All proposals are vetted for gender
where relevant in the IWMI Quality Management
System
· "Agents of Learning"
Gender teams with representation from all
departments (IIRR)
· ICRISAT Gender and Diversity (G&D)
Associates (25 at all levels) also looking
at Gender and Research, and could work from
within.
Problems:
· Budget given for gender and then
not used for gender
-Who monitors gender? Who understands it?
· Some/many? Scientists do not understand
gender in research
· Vacuum of trained, mentored scientists
for the future
· No follow-up to CG Social Science
2002 meeting, where gender was discussed
· Dependency on one gender specialist
in a Center: overload, reduced reach
· Short tenure at some Centers makes
it difficult to hold expertise.
Possible
actions:
· Capacity-building on being a change
agent (e.g. G&D course; ILAC training)
· Including attention to gender in
performance evaluations of scientists where
appropriate
· Mentoring/coaching of biological
scientists at Centers
· Addressing the needs of Centers
such as CIMMYT that would like to learn
more
· Finding out whether in some Centers
G&D teams could be advocates for gender
research
· Identifying donors who will, who
would:
-monitoring grants to Centers for incorporating
gender in research
-establishing a challenge program
· Providing a bonus system for gender
research; prizes
· Funding a challenge program for
gender research
· Expanding connections, such as
looking outside the CG box for experts who
regularly work with donors, for assistance
on making the case for gender issues
· Centers establishing dialog with
senior officials in collaborating countries
(e.g. IRRI in Pakistan)
· Technical meetings on gender and
research.
Day 3
Session
6: Benefits and costs [Q9]
·
Is easiness to manipulate [data] a real
issue? {Should we not manipulate in our
advocacy role?}
· Comprehensive about costs and benefits
{e.g. counterpart costs}
· [Cost comparisons between PR and
conventional research may be unfair comparision,
as processes are very different]
· Costs of not having PR?
· How to calculate costs (issue of
investment in capacity-building)
· Transaction costs on seed acquisition
(ethnographic approach)
· Easy counterfactual is too artificial
· Political economy of benefit-cost
analysis (mentioned paper) {ISNAR workshop
15 years ago covered much of what is being
treated as 'new knowledge' today - rather
it was not adopted then by practitioners}
· Easy to ignore some costs {e.g.
negotiation, interaction, opportunity costs
of farmers}
· Consequence of PR not being cost-effective
{e.g. adoption, breeding assumptions}
· {How to calculate cost-effectiveness,
given hidden costs (e.g. indigenous knowledge)
that take years to accumulate (but compare
cost of, e.g., PhD) - risk issue is more
important to those imparting indigenous
knowledge; do we need a model to understand
their viewpoint?}
· {What are we really looking for?
Improving the efficiency of research may
go beyond costs and benefits to augmenting
and replacing}
· {Cost-benefits irrelevant if one
understands the value of PR, but do need
to reduce costs of (e.g.) capacity-building,
huge demands for measurement}
· {What would have happened in the
CGIAR without PR? What was the influence
of people in the CG who then moved on to
influence others?}
Session 7: Rural innovation capacity
Q10:
Methodology
Qualitative
- quantitative: respect for qualitative
· What is impact assessment
control
attribution?
· Realistic counterfactual to PR
· Define 'conventional research'
· Point of PR is broad sharing {collaboration
with other disciplines}
· Point is to answer the question
· Powerful tool for reflecting local
interpretation
heterogeneity
· Question of quality / rigor relevant
for both
· {There will always be some doubters}
· {Capacity issue i.e. sloppy
handling of qualitative data à degraded
notion of value of qualitative data}.
IA
control, attribution:
-Context required for pro-poor technology
development
-Control groups
-Context of control groups
-Rival explanations
-Counterfactual random or not?
-Minimal set of critical factors shared
by group members
· Be clear about the difference when
comparing
· The role of natural science 'technologies,'
etc.
Q11. Primary objective of PR
·
Produce international public goods (IPGs)
· Cannot draw line between research
and development
· IPG must be rooted and understood
in local contexts
· What is 'cutting-edge science'?
· Social science? Not separate out
public goods
· Orientation towards global public
goods does not exclude sectors
Session 8: PR methods in IA
Q12.
Research ethics
·
Evaluation assessments have some statements
on ethics (African eval. ass. - AFREA; American
EA AEA)
learn from these existing guidelines
>CG has ethics committee and guidelines
(maybe not focusing on research processes)
>need guidelines focusing on research
process.
Q13. Areas of focus
·
Confidentiality
· Pictures of community being
used by R&D organization
· Gender aspects
· Guidelines developed should include
social scientists
· Research not going through ethics
· In capacity-development processes
where community are involved - PRA (how
do communities benefit?)
· Intellectual property rights (respecting
farmers' seed) scientists copyrighting
farmer property.
Q14. With PR
·
Taking "no more vampire scientists"
= using farmers as a 'control' group, is
it ethical (introducing untested programs
maybe more unethical?) a good document
idea
partners can keep us ethical (as example)
· CB - research ethics boards with
community seat on the board
· Ethics of visitors are important
as well
· How we work with communities raising
status of some can cause "risk"
on some members - use locals to decide
· Compensating farmers for participating?
· Precautionary principle of "do
no harm" at community è example
from Francesca's research
· Social responsibility is scaling
up creating socially responsible
innovation
· Learn from universities that have
"ethical guidelines"
· How PR scientists present their
findings "not always" the
truth
· Recognizing all those who contribute
to the research
· Bring research results back to
communities and local government
· "Learn from community library
with all research publications"
· Ethical issues when dealing with
institutional innovations and power structures
- especially when dealing with scaling up.
Integrating perspectives
·
photos as farmer communication
strengths and weaknesses
· more conceptual issues difficult
to understand
· contribution of farmers
scientists
· research extension
· IA to confirm
to get additional information
Better to be vaguely right than precisely
wrong
· Context what is in it for
me?
· Integrating / representing different
perspectives